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Guns and Butter, for September 3, 2014 - 1:00pm

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Guns and Butter

"The Pentagon Attack In Context" with Tod Fletcher

The 9/11 Consensus Panel; contextual approach to analyzing events at the Pentagon; origins of the hijacker story; telephone calls from the planes; analysis of eyewitness reports; physical debris; photographic evidence; video evidence; black boxes; FBI takes control of the investigation; means, motive and opportunity; Pentagon specific purposes; planes as a diversionary tactic; John Lear.

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Mr. Strahl, to put it simply:

Mr. Strahl, to put it simply: it seems strange to me that if the A&E's, Mr. Griffin, and others have time in their presentations for all of the other data, some of which are hours long, why do they never mention the possible or probable fate of the passengers? I haven't seen them give the topic even 30 seconds as a footnote.

Maybe they see little point

Maybe they see little point in pure speculation, and prefer to focus on material for which they do have supporting data. Hard enough to get public attention even for stuff which is slam-dunk obvious violations of laws of physics if the official story is to be believed. Time is short, friend.

Yes, even a 15 to 30 second

Yes, even a 15 to 30 second mention of the passenger's likely fate in a 1 to 2+ hour presentation, just to remind people of the extreme depravity of the 9/11 crimes, is just too much.

The article by Tod Fletcher

The article by Tod Fletcher and Tim Eastman on the Pentagon (in the form of a letter to the Journal of 9/11 Studies) can be read at

To respond to A Smith. I have no hesitation saying that it's very likely the passengers were killed somewhere, somehow, deliberately. But this is between two people convinced that 9/11 was an inside job. If i were talking to someone i was still trying to convince of that, this would not be a high priority for me, far more important to put forth the best evidence, such as the physical evidence from the WTC and what Mr Fletcher put forth in this show.

This was a great Program ...

This was a great Program ... thanks so much!

If what Mr. Fletcher says is

If what Mr. Fletcher says is true, and I think it is, then I'd like to hear a hypothesis of what became of the passengers of the four flights on 9/11. We've had many analyses of the major and minor events of the day, but I've rarely heard a reasonable theory of the fate of those people, especially those from the flights that allegedly crashed at the Pentagon and Shanksville, PA.

Hundreds of human bodies do not simply disintegrate with little to no trace from a fire or explosion of an airplane or building.

I believe the reason for this omission is that there is a phobia in postulating that if the gov't was involved as the evidence clearly points to, then those same officials had to be part of premeditated mass murder and disposal of hundreds of innocent passengers, or disappearing or silencing them in some other way. This is quite a heinous crime to contemplate, but no one of good reputation, such as the Architects & Engineers, or David Ray Griffin, et al, seems to want to take the obvious next step to its logical conclusion and state it openly.

Thus I would ask: if you believe that the gov't was involved in 9/11, killing nearly 3000 people at WTC's and the Pentagon, what makes you think they'd have any compunctions about also murdering those passengers in cold blood to forward their goal of world domination?

In the end, I'm convinced that the full truth about 9/11 will never be allowed by those in power to be known publically, because in a just society it would not only destroy those that were involved, but the larger issue of trust lost by the citizens of the U.S. (and much of the rest of the world) in their gov't institutions would forever be damaged, probably terminally, most likely causing a destruction of the Republic itself. The sociopathic/psychopathic elites that were responsible will not let that happen.

what passengers? ...the

what passengers? ...the Pentagon's 1962 'Northwoods' operation planned to use drone aircraft substituted for the flights supposedly destroyed in false flag attack...any actual passengers listed would include insiders adopting a new identity...probably like Caroline Olson wife of the gay lawyer behind the Jim Crow coup 9 months before) or disappeared if not insiders...and "to take the obvious next step to its logical conclusion and state it openly." the next step is to shoot ourselves in the head figuretively since when we kill the ones we catch the gang gets away and the over riding conclusion in all this is that we have met thje enemy and it is us...and what peace activist wants to start couningt the millions of murdered in the war on terror in our own death rows and cities...Langley looking like Gaza...or DC Falujah...and the crater where wall street used to be>

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