Against the Grain, for December 15, 2004 - 12:00pm
Download this clip (mp3, 10.23 megabytes)
Play this clip in your Computer's media player
At least some people on the Left are moving to Canada. Others are thinking about seceding from the Union. Organizers of two such efforts, Second Vermont Republic and Move On California, discuss what they're pushing for and why. C.S. also hosts a conversation about the play Take Me Out, about a baseball star who reveals he's gay.