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Against the Grain - December 15, 2004 at 12:00pm

Against the Grain, for December 15, 2004 - 12:00pm

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Against the Grain - December 15, 2004

At least some people on the Left are moving to Canada. Others are thinking about seceding from the Union. Organizers of two such efforts, Second Vermont Republic and Move On California, discuss what they're pushing for and why. C.S. also hosts a conversation about the play Take Me Out, about a baseball star who reveals he's gay.

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