al-Badawi.- Fisk The Egyptian rmgeie is expert at creating a false opposition and then pretending that this diversity proves how democratic it is. None of these men have anything whatsoever to do with this revolution, and in fact are (witting or unwitting) sock-puppets for every talking point now being put out by the rmgeie's propaganda machine as concessions the idea is to have these phony representatives say them, because it sounds so much better coming from them than from the rmgeie itself.Most striking is that while the millions of demonstrators are shouting themselves hoarse, saying No to Mubarak and no to Suleiman, they are agents of the Americans (it rhymes in Arabic), the first item that these phony representatives are demanding is that Mubarak transfer all his dictatorial powers to Omar Suleiman!! Every individual or organization or party that is demanding that power is transferred to Omar Suleiman is thus publicly exposed as an enemy of the people, but the Egyptian media is ignoring the real revolutionaries and giving a platform only to these fakes. - DShe then goes on to trash Fisk further, criticising his journalism skills: Oh, Fiskie, Fiskie, you pathetic excuse for a journalist, you. There is nobody named Nagib Suez one of Egypt's most famous businessmen is the billionaire Naguib Sawiris, whose family empire includes not only vast telecommunications but construction and tourism and manufacturing and media holdings. Finally on the MB:The Brotherhood's insistence in not joining talks until Mubarak's departure ? and their support for ElBaradei, whose own faint presidential ambitions (of the transitional kind) have not commended themselves to the protesters ? effectively excluded them. Suleiman has archly invited the Brotherhood to meet him, knowing that they will not do so until Mubarak has gone. Aw jeez, more bullshit. Omar Suleiman invited the Muslim Brotherhood for dialogue and the MB spent several days dithering, refusing to say whether they'd go for it or not. After all, following 6 decades of being labeled an illegal organization, here was the rmgeie running after them and brandishing the promise of legitimacy. Finally they decided that they would agree to one meeting to hear what Suleiman had to say. This tentative meeting cost them dearly in terms of public support and it was in response to loud public outrage that they insisted they'd only gone to listen and to repeat the street's demand for Mubarak to leave, and said that the meeting was unfruitful and that they saw no purpose to any further meetings. In other words, Fisk has it exactly bass-ackward: the MB lost some support, not because it refused to talk with the rmgeie, but because it temporarily gave in to the temptation to meet with Suleiman, though they realized their mistake and are trying to make up for it now.The MB has been desperate to ensure that they are not totally left behind by this revolution that had nothing whatsoever to do with them. In fact, they'd firmly refused to join the initial demonstrations on January 25, saying that they did not know who was calling for these demonstrations and they could not join something whose agenda and organizers were unclear. Only on January 28 (the Day of Wrath ) did they decide to join, but in doing so they were exposed as much weaker in terms of number and influence than they or the rmgeie have been claiming. Of course, this has not stopped the rmgeie's media from constantly pushing the lie that the MB is behind this movement (along with the Mossad, Hezbullah, Iran, Hamas and Al Qaeda) and that its members form the bulk of the demonstrators.The MB itself, however, has maintained that its members are Egyptians just like everybody else and deserve the right to have some representation in Egypt's political landscape, but that they do not feel that they have the right to make any demands of the rmgeie that differ from those made by the revolutionaries themselves. Interestingly, they have even signed off on the revolutionaries' demand that Egypt's new constitution be designed to make Egypt a democratic, secular state .I really don't understand why Fisk is still being quoted he's a very poor and lazy researcher who bases his slapped-together analysis on errors of fact and what are clearly second- or even third-hand sources. - D Sorry for the big dump of an unattributed source, but given the circumstances there is no way I'm gonna ID that person or provide any potential way to identify them. I hope people understand that, the person I quoted is someone I've known online for years, and the only reason I ever got exposed to what was brewing there.She also says things I don't always agree with, some even in her analysis I posted above (thats not everything she wrote either, just what's most relevant) but i'm here and she is where its happening so her opinion carries more weight than mine I reckon.I've been following a bunch of Egyptians on the ground in Tahrir, and outside Egypt as well, and her opinions seem closer to those people than anything else outside a few blogs and reports an AL J and Democracy Now. (Many of which come from Egyptians in Egypt)There are some better sources than Fisk for some of the info she criticises Fisk about. They seem to have got it right .Sawiris is among a self-appointed group of leading Egyptians who have met with government officials to explore a way out of the standoff between protesters and the government. He says he has been negotiating the release of Ghoneim.Ghonim has been released btw. You can see a report and interview via Al J. Pretty heavy stuff, really moving.