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Guns and Butter, for June 8, 2011 - 1:00pm

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"Earthquake, Fusion and New Energy Research" with Dr. Steven Jones. Scientific research into instances of man-made earthquakes; HAARP; muon-catalyzed fusion; metal catalyzed fusion; a new kind of dynamic energy.

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The link to the HAARP website

The link to the HAARP website in my previous comment was defective. It should be: http://www.haarp.alaska.edu

Steven Jones's ''debunking"

Steven Jones's ''debunking" of HAARP as not being capable of causing earthquakes was very flawed.

In defining HAARP he only stated that it "involves radio waves that can be directed." He failed to mention WHERE these waves are directed. He claimed that the radio energy that HAARP emits can neither "couple to earth motion" nor penetrate far into the earth, and therefore could not cause earthquakes.

But HAARP only directs its energy upwards into the ionosphere, not the earth. The theories of those who say HAARP may be involved in "tectonic warfare" do NOT claim that HAARP directs its energy into the EARTH to produce its effects, but rather into the upper layer of the atmosphere called the IONOSPHERE.

Steven Jones MUST be aware of this, and so his "debunking" amounts to a straw man argument. A highly credentialed physicist like him must certainly know and understand that the purpose and technology of HAARP is all about energy directed at the ionosphere, not the earth.

A school child can go to HAARP's own homepage (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/; see also http://vlf.stanford.edu/research/experiments-haarp-ionospheric-heater) and read that its energy is directed to the ionosphere, and that the stated purpose is purely that of scientific research.

Those who suspect that it may also be used to trigger earthquakes have in mind the scientifically documented correlation that has been found between changes in the ionosphere over a certain area and major earthquakes that have occurred a few days later:

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore....

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26773/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ZwR9Dxbmo

It is well known that correlation does not prove causation. Whether the changes in the ionosphere that precede an earthquake are the cause of changes within the earth or the effect is the question. But since it is believed that the iron core of the earth is what produces the magnetic field that surrounds the earth, and since the ionosphere forms the inner edge of the magnetosphere, it is not implausible that by causing changes in the ionosphere effects could be produced within the earth. The hypothesis may be completely false, but would seem to be at least worth exploring.

I am very puzzled by Steven Jones's misrepresentation of the nature and purpose of HAARP in order to dismiss any possibility of its potential to trigger seismic events.

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