Flashpoints, for August 22, 2011 - 5:00pm
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Your guest, Khalil Bendib, has validated my own ideas of what it is in Libya; I felt a kindred spirit with him. He, being Algerian and witness to their revolution (our movement wore out "Battle of Algiers" we played it so much), certainly has a really good grasp of what's going on, especially with the Libyan youth. I love the way he expressed confidence in their revolutionary spirit and audacity (I believe the youth are the majority Libyan population) -- as well as his keen eye for racism, elitism being expressed by the so-called Left in their cynical assumptions about these freedom fighters. I hope you have him on again and open the live lines!
The glaring omission by Molina and his NATO apologist guest Khalil Bendib was if this is truly a popular revolution in Libya then why did the UK and the US have to spend nearly 2 billion dollars and why was CIA involvement necessary for their victory? It has nothing to do with Khaddafi or the false dichotomies of neo-imperialism propaganda between dictators and foreign financed revolts...much more will come out and it ain't gonna make the apologias of the collaborationists with neo-imperialism look any prettier...bring on the onslaught of the USAID-sponsored NGOs while we pretend this was a popular revolt!! I'm sure NED will finance and sponsor wonderful elections in Libya in the foreseeable future.
Libya and Beyond: How Did We Get There and What Happens Next?
"Was the United States’ Central Intelligence Agency involved in planning for regime change prior to events in February and March in Benghazi? Did the CIA and its assets have a role in fomenting a civil war?"
"Rebels worked to topple remnants of the Gadhafi military apparatus as special forces from Britain, France, Jordan and Qatar -- which are on the ground in Libya -- have stepped up operations in Tripoli and other cities in recent days to help them."
Was the CIA behind the Gaddafi oust?
Wow, just wow! Khalils' argument is chock full of holes as is the "rebels" cause but if Gadaffi didn't have significant support of the populace, HE WOULDN'T HAVE LASTED THIS LONG! Amazing how this is being conflated with "Arab Spring" and some on the left(Juan Cole, DemoNow et al..)are going right along cheerleading it. It's almost like the effects of the no-fly zone on Iraq have been forgotten or they just don't give a damn because it's progressed into regime change and that's okay with them. How could anyone not know this would happen? A so called revolution that requires such external material and logistical support as the rebels have received is severely hampered in terms of credibility. Has anyone supporting the "rebels"identified the strings that are attached to this support? Didn't think so, but to them it's okay that their once soveriegn country will be bombed into client state status w/complicit leadership that will give away it's resources to benefit the empire. In the interview, Khalil said something about people who aren't North African don't understand the situation and shouldn't make decisions for Libyans or have a strong opinion on this; e.g., butt out!!. But you know what? I don't need to be Libyan or North African to recognize imperialism and the crimes associated with it. Gadaffi, no longer willing to cooperate or be a willing stooge has angered the US/EURO/NATO(empire) and is being made an example of. To wit:"If you(Gadaffi) don't do what we say with YOUR resources and economic structure, we WILL take you down and if we need to kill you, your family or significant numbers of your citizens, especially the black ones, so be it"!!
Also some weird dynamics I've noticed going on @KPFA and Pacifica:
Pacifica started carrying Al Jazeera just in the nick of time for "Arab Spring" events. The news network, based in Qatar happens to support the rebels in Libya and Amy Goodman on DemoNow has interviewed pro-rebel guests that support the war without having anti-rebel guests with opposing viewpoints. I have to ask, is the money that good to toe the mainstream line on this? For something that it's so obviously wrong on it's face? Coincidence, right?
Is it by design that some hosts are publically broadcasting their support or opposition to these events for ratings @the station in the interest of having a diversity of opinions?
i hoped you asked amy goodman that question- i did
no answer yet!!
Thanks very much for this show with two differing points of view expressed finally which is what KPFA is supposed to do in my opinion. Mr. Nazemroaya who has provided useful information is in Libya and in that hotel by his own choice insofar as I know. The other correspondents in the hotel are in similar danger and may have different viewpoints such as Mr. Bendib does so their lives need to be considered also in my opinion. Life in Lybia may be worse after this fight regardless of who wins, if anyone ever does decisively enough so the people do truly rule either once again or in the future depending on one's viewpoint. I hope not.
Miguel Gavilan Molina made a severe mistake here. I have some confidence in him when he is talking about America Latina but he is lost in the Middle East and Africa. Pepe Escobar is one of the best journalist alive and he is extraordinaly well informed. Liste to him here http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LpQe79rFDZs . He know that the Al CIAda fighters and all other hired guns are acting as some kind of stormtroopers in Libya. And CFR have recommended putting boots on the ground
John Holmstead expressed my sentiment exactly. I might even have a possible answer. It relates to fundraising--isn't money always the motivating factor. First, Kevin Pina does an outstanding job with special reporter Mahdi Nazemroaya. People start listening to Flashpoints just to hear this amazing and HONEST coverage. Then, once the new listeners are corralled, the "dissidents" (most likely with the $$$) are let in to take down the truth and play out the deception--same deception that we have been seeing with warmongering Amy Goodman on Democracy now. Khalil Bendib's arguments were so full of holes they sank like loaded rocks. He spoke only about --well, yes, Gadhafi did feed the people. He said nothing about how Gadhafi took Libya from the poorest country to the country with the highest standard of living in all of Africa. He said nothing about every Libyan owning his/her own house. He said nothing about the free education through college. Well, that is it--he said nothing. He also conveniently forgot to mention that the Libyans had two rallies, each over one million people who were supporting the Gadhafi government and/or at the very least against NATO. He forgot to mention that Gadhafi armed the people--does a tyrant hated by the masses arm them? Of course not. Both Miguel and Khalil were disgusting--in addition to undermining the safety of their special correspondent. If anything happens to the brave and intelligent and honest Mahdi, I hope that is on their conscience to the day they depart from this earth. SADI SAD! show. And, don't forget to update your Flashpoints website so the listeners can get the telephone number and info to call Canadian foreign office with request to protect the journalists in Libya.
I think calling Khalil Bendib a "NATO apologist" is way over the top.
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