Guns and Butter, for September 7, 2011 - 1:00pm
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"The 46 Exercises and Drills of 9/11" with Webster Griffin Tarpley. Military exercises and drills in the decade before September 11th, and on the day of; drills that then go live; MIHOP v. LIHOP; the goal of 9/11; the stand down order; lack of air defense; the Pentagon; Angel Is Next; Amalgam Virgo; Able Danger; Able Warrior; P2OG; Vigilant Guardian; Global Guardian; Amalgam Warrior; Doomsday Aircraft equipped with the Looking Glass Communication System, etc.
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9/11 Synthetic Terror - Made in USA is fully sourced within the text - the Bibliography runs to 7 pages - the ad hominem: "...fact-free conspiritard..." is ultimately childish ignorant - Hard Fire is not even close to the usefool fools on FOX - who knows why/if Tarpley refused an invitation
The 46 drills are eye opening and certainly not a coincidence that so many of these happened on the day 9/11. I have tremendous respect for Webster Tarpley, but I am puzzled that he deflects blame from Cheney when it is clear that Cheney had a substantial role in the success of the stand-down order.
I agree with Tarpley that Bush was an idiot puppet who was complicit, but was not a decision maker. But there is much evidence of the MOSSAD's involvement and cooperation with the U.S. military that Tarpley denies. Maybe Tarpley knows how to survive in a world of deceit and assassination. Could he be deflecting suspicion in order to not anger the powers that be?
Webster Tarpley is another fact-free conspiritard. He was offered an opportunity to present his views on 'Hardfire' and ran away when he learned that his lies would be challenged. His myths about the war games are all refuted on 911myths.com. Anyone seeking to learn the facts can easily do so, but conspiracy liars hate facts. If they were capable of learning, they wouldn't be crackpots.
Why do you think you can get away with DIS-INFO here? You are sniffing glue if you think you can B.S. with your propaganda site which doesn't address the 46 drills and exercises even though they can be researched and referenced at Historycommons.org.
I don't know what "Hardfire" is, but if it's like O'Reilly or Hannity, he's very wise to steer clear. I've heard him debate many times, and he doesn't "run away".
Ronnie, I suppose, then, since you like to throw the insipid, pointless name calling around ("conspiritard") you, as a supporter of the Official Conspiracy Theory, need to direct that description to yourself.
Tarpley is not the 9/11 skeptics movement. He has interesting ideas not well sourced. But others do have solid intellectual underpinnings. I will name two one who deals with the facts, David Lee Griffin, and the other who coined the term "deep politics" who goes way back to the old anti-war teach-ins and that is Bekeley's own Peter Dale Scott. 911myths.com deals withs some issues but leaves out the main ones also I refer to Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth site which is pretty hefty and has not, as far as I know, been reputed. What undermines your position is that no forensic-based investigation ever occurred on the events and, what cannot be denied, the government deliberately seized and/or destroyed evidence. Because it is such a toxic topic few want to approach it. I've had more than one person say to me that "even if it was true that the gov't was involved, I simply refuse to believe it." Which is actually a very sand position--the hurt of thinking that is very hard to bear. I don't find it hard because I've been in and around government most of my life and I know that it is highly compartamentalized and I can assure you that "the government" probably had nothing to do with it but some elements in the gov't certainly seemed involved in some way. At any rate, I do know (from knowing something about the intel community) that certainly there are people in that arena who are capable of such a monstrosity and would do it any day of the week and twice on Sunday--believe me there are some very hard characters hanging around in the shadows.
I agree that AE911Truth.org is a great place to start. I am a coordinator for their volunteer effort for their 10th anniversary project. But Tarpley adds more pieces to the puzzle that helps explain how it came together.
"Interesting ideas not well sourced"?? Did you listen to Tarpley mention Historycommons.org as his source for the information on the drills? Did you visit that site? Why make yourself look like a complete idiot?
My guess: probably not allowed to actually listen to the shows they're assigned to "debunk", just given some talking points to spew, in their own words of course.
We get what they pay for, and it can't be much.
banger, what is the source of your very general statement that Tarpley has "interesting ideas not well sourced" ?
And 911myths.com has been certified by Dick Cheney so we can all relax right.
Webster Tarpley's 'Angel is Next' analysis stands alone as the most potent, cohesive, and convincing evaluation of the events of 9/11. Mr. Tarpley's intellect is a gift to mankind.
Absolutely great show! Thank you Bonnie and Webster Tarpley!
I disagree with him on a few minor points, but overall Tarpley is brilliant!!!