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"Severe Visibility" with Paul Cross. Fundraiser

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Thanks, "John", for the great

Thanks, "John", for the great support for "Operation Terror". As it happens, the interview on this show was about a different film, "Severe Visibility", made in 2007, which is about what didn't hit the Pentagon on 9/11/2001.

Yes, Fred, I am aware that

Yes, Fred, I am aware that G&B show was about "Severe Visibility" but the two films were made by the same individual and are inextricably linked. They both pertain to events involving commercial airliners, US military operations and the FAA on 9/11/2001. I brought up this topic because it is central to the argument against a 9/11 Conspiracy. The author of these movies presented the ground stop/autoclave scenario in "Operation Terror" and it is the first plausible explanation I have yet to encounter for the whereabouts of the hijacked passengers, if in fact they were not crashed into the Pentagon, WTC and Shanksville.

Paul Cross in his movie

Paul Cross in his movie "Operation Terror" is the first individual I know of to propose two possible means by which the perpetrators of 9/11 actually disposed of the passengers on the planes that supposedly crashed on 9/11/2001. He suggests 1.) The chronology of events in the official 9/11 Commission Report is wrong, and specifically that the FAA ordered a Ground Stop 'Drill' BEFORE planes hit the WTC. and 2.) That the passengers were taken first to a FAA hangar and then to an adjacent NASA building @ Cleveland Intl. Airport, where they were placed into an autoclave and murdered. The movie scene was reminiscent of films the Nazis made of themselves forcing Jews into gas chambers during the holocaust. Sorry to provide a spoiler here if you haven't seen the movie. One of the only problems I have with Cross's 9/11 passenger disposal theory is that someone @ NASA who was uninvolved in the operation should have noticed 150 unauthorized civilians being led into a 3 story tall autoclave. Anyone else care to comment?

When the movie says "...the

When the movie says "...the US military had no knowledge of what was
going to happen that day. We were duped." that may be true for most of
the troops, but remember that the Pentagon's 1962 'Operation
Northwoods' memo; ...which instructs
staging false flag domestic terror as a pretext for military attack,
is a Pentagon plan.
" is recommended that primary responsibility
for developing military and para-military aspects of the plan
for both overt and covert military operations be assigned the
Joint Chiefs of Staff" and since we4've had drones since the 50s we
have an amply gruesome spectacle without having to murder nonexistant
"From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying
aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly
into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will
have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the
aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft
meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan."
so while the FBI had to say he lied about his wife's murder (what a
great person to defend our domestic partner rights, challenging
proposition 8) the truth is she is probably spooking around in her new

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